Busted 6 months for hentai and lolicon
Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Usually people who get busted for hentai also had real child porn in their collection. This guy got busted for importing a bunch of lolicon manga from Japan.
Christopher Handley, the Iowa man on trial for possessing manga “drawings of children being sexually abused,” was sentenced on Thursday to six months in prison. Following this sentence, Handley must serve three years of supervised release and five years of probation. Both of these terms will start upon his release from prison and will run concurrently. Handley also agreed to forfeit all seized materials, including his computer. During Handley’s supervised release and probation, Handley must also “participate in a treatment program, to include psychological testing and a polygraph examination, as directed by the U. S. Probation Officer.” According to earlier court documents, this last provision is “intended to provide [Handley] with diagnosis and treatment for sexually and/or gender identity or other mental health issues.” Handley pleaded guilty to his charges in May 2009.
This guy didn’t possess any child porn and did not molest any children or anyone. This is the stupid community standards or Common Law at work. If the jury in your hick town thinks your funny books are an abomination in the eyes of the lord, well you’re fucked. Like some supreme court judge I don’t remember said, “I can’t give you a definition of pornography, but I know it when I see it.” I can’t give you the exact definition of what makes a stupid fucking moron, but I know one when I hear one.
The prosecution also stated that “The works at issue do not even have arguable scientific, literary, artistic, or political value, such as Vladimir Nabokov’s famed novel, Lolita, Shakespeare’s Romeo and Juliet.
It’s no art because I say so.
I’m also bothered by “diagnosis and treatment for sexually and/or gender identity or other mental health issues.” Can the judicial system decide if your gender identity is acceptable? Same for sexuality; that’s a thought crime.
“although honest with what he reported, was not disclosing enough to gain a complete picture of the nature and extent of [his] sexual deviancy … The main finding from the testing results is that Mr. Handley produced a guarded, defensive, and evasive profile. His test taking behavior suggests there is likely more to know about him than he is willing to disclose at this time.”
Christ, who wouldn’t evasive in the same situation. He’s being judge for his fantasies. Everybody’s got some fucked up fantasies and as long as they don’t hurt anyone they’re really nobody’s business. They really skrewed this guy’s life.
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on February 11th, 2010 at 8:28 PM
Serves him right for pleading guilty. By pleading guilty, he gave the PROTECT Act bastards a case to reference.
on February 11th, 2010 at 8:46 PM
It sucks, but had he not plead guilty, he would have probably be forced to register as a sex offender.
Also, he didn't appear to be in a position to hire a big ass lawyer.
The jury had probably already decided his case before the trial even started. It's "what does your gut tell you" instead of beyond a reasonable doubt.
on February 11th, 2010 at 10:29 PM
Still, this isn't the first time the (American) court system screwed up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_diana
I shudder to think what they'll consider 'obscene' next. -_-!
on February 11th, 2010 at 11:29 PM
I remember that. The judge forbade him to draw. Fucked up beyond belief.
on February 12th, 2010 at 2:42 AM
Reading both of those cases is making me angry enough to get light headed. I can't believe shit like this still flies in this day and age. Makes me wish somebody would cut out the tongues of everyone involved in the decision for violating free speech.
on February 12th, 2010 at 3:42 AM
The trouble is where do you draw the line? Sure, the law protects free speech, but it also protects people from being abused by it. They take such material as being indicative of possible behavioral problems and the potential to engage in actions that are for lack of a better term illegal.
Though I can't say I agree with big-money firms using their financial resources to bully the public and the courts to do their bidding, there is something to be said for erring on the side of caution. Free speech doesn't mean complete and total anarchy.
on February 12th, 2010 at 4:39 AM
But, where is the line from "erring on the side of caution"? I might have a bunch of pictures of seductive commissions of Cheetarah on my PC, doesn't mean that I think I'm anthroporphic IRL or that I want to fuck cats… but if someone accuses me of being sick in the head for liking said artwork, how can I defend myself against it?
What if I have a hard drive full porn actress Kitty Jung? What's stopping someone from playing the Chris Hansen card on me because she is small of stature and built like a gymnist(read: has really small tits, so looks "underage" dispite filming porn for a number of years)? I happen to think she's cute… doesn't mean I want to bang 12 year olds.
Your argument has merit, Kai, but this is a slippery slope, my friend. What's "cautious" to one is infringement to others.
The bit that scared me the most, Sirk, was the "…guarded, defensive, and evasive profile…" thing. The same could be said about a lot of us (for a fact, ME) in various situations. There's "more to know" about a lot of people, doesn't mean it is as sinister as it's made to sound in this context.
-D.P.R.
on February 12th, 2010 at 10:37 AM
holly fuck im glad i live in canada where this kind of shit dosent happen nearly as often he got knocked for haveing 7 loli mangas (btw i lol'd at ur pic) and the guy who did boiled angle they get "expert" wihitnesses to say it wasnt of litary or artistic value i say fuck them if some one took the time to draw it its worth of artistic value hell i cant even find online copies of the comic. the phcologest compleatly riped him off there are 8 issues of burst angel i assume 15-40 pages in what world dose it take some 1 10 hours to read 8 comics he couldent pay for the $1200 because he was fired from his job because of the case [damnit i forgot what i was geting at]oh yah all this because a few people think its obscine being a semi-oldfag on /b/ (ruels 1 and 2 apply to raids so dont start) i have seen alot worse then anythig that was said to be put into boild angle "His comic book, Boiled Angel, graphically depicts serial slayings, date rapes, and priests engaged in pedophilia."–http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/3.01/eword.html?pg=4
oh p.s. if ny 1 finds a copy of this comic plz let me know
on February 12th, 2010 at 1:00 PM
People who drink a lot are more likely to drive drunk at some point. Yet alcoholism is not a crime.
What of comics about revenger fantasies? Who's never a revenger fantasy? Who's never wish someone dead? I bet all those school shooters like at Colombine had violent comics and movies.
The fact that he lived in Iowa probably had a lot to do with it.
on February 12th, 2010 at 1:05 PM
And you know what pisses me off? If you draw or buy racist comics, that's protected by free speech.
What if you draw Nazis raping lolies?
@_@ It's like an IRL deviantart…
on February 12th, 2010 at 1:25 PM
Yes, where do you do draw the line?
When does regulating speech become regulating thought (as Sirk pointed out)? The apparent justification seems to be that, "They have loli porn, that must mean they fuck or want to fuck kids". That would be akin to saying someone who engages in rape fantasies wants to get raped (here's a hint: they don't). That's not to say there aren't some people who view loli and are legitimately pedos, but how is it fair to lump innocent people in with them as well? At the end of the day, we are talking about a graphic depiction – a drawing. A drawing that only represents what the artist and the viewer perceives it as. If you think it is kiddie porn, maybe you're the one with the problem.
Please allow me to point out that this is all coming from someone that is not a fan of loli (HERESY!), but happens to know many that are.
I would also like to point the US isn't the only country with this problem. Not long ago, I found a blog with a Canadian complaining of his loli being confiscated on the way to his house (at least he wasn't arrested). I'll link you to it when I find it again.
on February 12th, 2010 at 2:35 PM
I think I'd be pretty fucking guarded, defensive and evasive profile after being smeared as a virtual pedophile.
on February 12th, 2010 at 3:55 PM
The Canadian Common Law does indeed work the same way.
on February 12th, 2010 at 5:19 PM
@Kai v3.0
While it is true that with freedom comes responsibility, with the laws that we implement to procure/ensure it should come trust between the enforcers and the public they've been hired to 'protect'. With each botched court case and 'police incident' (*cough*Dziekanski*cough*), that trust begins to wane. -_-!
There *is* a difference between fantasy and reality – enjoying depictions of one's fetishes is *NOT* the same as enacting them yourself.
(What? You think that, because I like mouthless girls, I'll erase every female orifice I see? Get your head out of the gutter) }:^)
In fact, it's because of this brand of 'justice' that many 'mainstream' studios and networks are afraid of innovating, leaving us consumers to 'settle' for politically-mandated generic pap.
If I want to watch, read, write or draw any media that features:
- genies/harem girls
- sexy robots
- demons/succubi and other 'monsters'
- anthropomorphic animals and/or objects
- alternate body parts (ie hands instead of feet, pussy mouth)
- female characters being transformed into the above
- women getting stuck in glue
- skimpy costumes
- bondage
- softcore or even hardcore sex
then, as a thinking, reasoning **ADULT**, I should have that (constitutionally protected) right. I work, I pay taxes, I stay out of trouble (or, at least, I haven't been caught yet) ~_^
Why should I not be rewarded for my 'achievements'?
There is no reason for the patients to be running the asylum, ladies and gentlemen.
on February 12th, 2010 at 10:54 PM
There isn't really a right answer to this.
on February 12th, 2010 at 10:59 PM
Yes there is. :p
on February 13th, 2010 at 3:33 AM
You know, I actually saw some H once with a Nazi and a loli, I don't think it was rape though. Don't remember what it was.
As for the right answer (and in reference to the Columbine comment): When I was a senior in high school, a buddy of mine and I ran Quake through almost the entire school computer system. Ran so rampant that even TEACHERS started jumping in deathmatches. The following year, shit went down in Littleton, and there was a big deal made about the shooters playing DOOM. If that would have happened one year sooner, we would have gone from lots of people having fun and letting off steam during study halls, to me and that other guy possibly being expelled because of mindless populous outrage and "zero tolerance" policies.
I WOULD RATHER MISS A FEW BONAFIDE SICKOS THAN HAVE WITCH HUNTS. Think about it: Artwork McCarthyism! "Have you now, or have you ever, owned a Tiajuana Bible!"
-D.P.R.
on February 13th, 2010 at 3:50 AM
Similar story, but further back.
For an English assignment I wrote a story where the teacher got killed by a monster that came out of the toilet (he got sucked down the bowl). The teacher thought it was pretty funny. The French teacher also got killed and the English teacher showed him the story, since there was a feud between those two (thanks a lot Gianfranco!). The French teacher got pissed, but I wasn't in any real trouble.
A friend also showed my drawings of decapitations to the principal. He said it wasn't his cup of tea but it was nicely drawn.
I can't imagine the kind of shit a kid would get for that sort of thing today.
on February 13th, 2010 at 4:05 PM
ahh more insite into the mind of sirkowski
on February 13th, 2010 at 8:31 PM
Tonight we'll be watching the trials and tribulations of one Christopher Handley, a forty plus year old unemployed office worker. As Mr. Handley uses a government computer to aid him in his job hunt, he takes a moment to glance upon material others find questionable and offenseive. Thanks to the deluded actions of one anonymous low-level female government drone, she will unwittingly set into motion a series of unfortunate events for this lonely middle aged man that will bring him to…
…the twilight zone.
on February 13th, 2010 at 9:57 PM
@D.P.R. (Anon), if you have a look at Melissa Ashley's wikipedia page (she is very much like Kitty Jung aka Little Miss Kitty in her build or lack thereof) she's gone to court to give evidence and prove her age after her fans have been charged with 'pedo' movies starring her.
Hell, if Mrs BmD wasn't coming with me to Vegas in the summer I'd be tempted to go over into AZ for one of Ms. Ashley's 'private shows'…
on February 14th, 2010 at 7:08 AM
"There are as many pedophiles in the world as there ever have been. If I were a parent, I would PREFER that pedophiles were on MySpace. Keep 'em on the Internet! Keep them jacking off in a basement in South Carolina, as opposed to the OLD FASHIONED WAY where they're doing laps around the schoolyard, trying to fly-fish Junior into the Oldsmobille with Smarties on a fishing line…" -Doug Stanhope
@Sirk, I think you CAN imagine the shit kids get for that sort of thing… think about the whole explosion of "Death Note" related disciplines a couple of years ago. People out of the know never realized it was a cartoon and trying to be the hero that saves the school, despite numerous other kids getting punished for the same thing and the show being brought up each time on national news fronts. Hell, if the show came out about 20 years ago, I would have made one too. Yes, I'm admitting that. :p
@Branch, I'm not really trying to post anonymous, just my Google account decided to shit on me a while back. I said the hell with it.
-D.P.R.
on February 14th, 2010 at 11:52 AM
Oh my! *rushes for his furry porn, especially for the gay furry magazines* Must hide them!
I read a few of the american laws. The ones regarding pornography leaves it to the court to decide if it's pornography or erotic art. (So, I can draw porn and say it's erotic art… wow… what a… title. Though I don't think court would approve of my opinion)
on February 15th, 2010 at 12:04 AM
Saw you posting on SA about this – bad idea, all it'll get is you banned. Not that they need an excuse, of course.
on February 15th, 2010 at 12:12 AM
Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking trying to convince a bunch of closeted diaper fetishist neckbeards. Though i wouldn't mind getting banned.
on February 15th, 2010 at 12:37 AM
Fuck it, I'm removing that site from my bookmarks.
on February 15th, 2010 at 6:43 PM
These to me is very disturbing I mean people are getting arrested for things that are aculely legal and the fact that he is actully going to go there mental and pychologic testing seems to me to be overkill.
on February 15th, 2010 at 9:08 PM
Anything we can do to protect ourselves?
on February 17th, 2010 at 12:56 AM
Exercise regularly, maintain a healthy diet, manage your money responsibly, always work on developing skills that keep you employed, have healthy relationships with community organizations that you can network through, and above all else don't use a government computer like it's your home computer.
on February 18th, 2010 at 11:54 PM
And draw your loli with D-cups, so you can claim that it's midget porn.
on February 19th, 2010 at 3:02 AM
@ kai lol that will work
that would be a funny cort case "its a midget.. uh little person, i swear its not loli"
on February 19th, 2010 at 6:53 PM
I'm probably going to regret this.
http://yeldarb86.deviantart.com/art/Girls-Just-Wanna-Have-Fun-144302220
Then again, there *are* other works in his gallery. ^_^
(and more twisted examples out there. This *is* the internet, after all)
on February 26th, 2010 at 1:20 AM
You still alive, fella?
on February 26th, 2010 at 3:23 PM
Yeah, just taking a few days break.
on February 28th, 2010 at 11:39 AM
oh yeah, I check your other former site. The douchebag had the nuggets to put in youtube links of Sailor Moon.
on March 1st, 2010 at 7:08 PM
lol i was gunna put "i think sirk died" but an anon kinda beat me to it though
on April 23rd, 2011 at 2:40 AM
i found this looking for mortal kombat hentai but
the man did nothing to harm any one thats all
i have to say